Messages from the Deeper Thoughts Conference on the Outer Planes BBS between March 1989 and June 1989. Collected and Condensed by Fire Escape. ========================================================================= PHY MSG# 18785 03/10/89 18:48 FROM: ARION Number Six TO: ALL SMRY: Hey All you christian freaks out there, I am no longer one of you. I am a Pagan now. I might even go all the way to satanism! Christianity sucks! 03/10/89 20:52 PALADIN disgruntled consumer Good! Sounds like you needed some excuse. I'll phone C. Manson and tell him your'e ready. 03/11/89 04:15 DOLPHINS spamspamspamNZookeni Reeeeal smart route there.... 03/11/89 23:06 ARION Number Six If you don't like it TOUGH! Any satanic poeple on this BBS? Leave me mail. 03/12/89 07:29 OWENJ THE WEEKEND WETURNER Hurm... satanism goes skwidly... HEY D00D! HAVE ANY K-K()()L SATANIC WAREZ?!? LLEVE ME E-MALE, D00D! 03/13/89 01:55 MEDIC Medic Probable "Satanism" already IS squidly. I mean, how many REAL Satanists do you suppose are out there? 99% are just pimply-faced teenagers that listen to Death Metal, then carve all the NEAT-0 KEEN symbolism (pentagrams, etc.) on their arms... In any case, to the originator of this message... yes, Christianity sucks. But Paganism is just plain FLAKY. Why not just flirt with atheist apathy for a while? 03/13/89 17:01 ELDER Elder Medic, Good one Medic. Number Six, it is unfortunate that you have chosen to forsake one path for something worse. Paganism and Satannism are just outright stupid. What is your reason for being so violent? Sure, I am crude and like to question the motives and beliefs of Christians, but I have based my beliefs on inspection and examination--of both myself and the world around me. Is your inspection the same? Or are we simply making a rash choice? I would rather see an ethical Christian (however boring and conservative) than a skwidly satannist anyday... 03/13/89 22:10 MEDIC Medic Probable I dunno... skwidly Satanists CAN be amusing... 03/14/89 03:25 CHAOS Captain Chaos "Oh Shit... Here we go again.." I hope that we don't have to get into the topic of Paganism again. I'll put it real short.. If you are interested in more Pagan articles, or if you talk of Paganism and Satanism in one sentence, then I think you need to call Wierdbase and get the facts. There are some real good files on that system... So, I beg you, before you go against Paganism with the idea that it's flaky or satanistic, etc.. Please find out about it.. 03/14/89 20:26 ELDER The Elder Aw Gawd! How Bauwdy! Chaos, no one is confusing Satannism and Pagannism, we wouldn't be so silly to make that blunder--we all know how totally ridiculous both are. I'll call Wierdbase, maybe I'll give my son the number so he can preach and rebuke you poor misled devil dogs (jokingly). No, really, I will call, I always enjoy a good joke. 03/15/89 00:58 MEDIC Medic Probable Well, I'd suggest the Bible, but it isn't a particularly good joke... there's no punch line. 03/15/89 01:41 TWEED Barfing Cat ()]8-) Elder, I think before you insult a religion you must first learn about that religion. What do you *really* know about Paganism? As far as devil worship goes... Pagans don't believe in the 'devil'. We don't hold the belief that any diety is all good or all bad. It is a nature religion. A religion that predates Christianity by morå than 6,000 years. In fact, Christians used to use the backs of ouò temples to worship at one time... Paganism isn't anti-Christian, iô isn't anti-anything. Nor does it claim to be the only true spirituaì path. Paganism preeches love, equality of the sexes, it is a religioî where participation is almost garunteed do to the limited sizes oæ covens. 03/15/89 10:00 CREEPY The Creep I can't stand 12 year old kids who suddenly denounce Christianity. Like THEY know everything! Bugs me more than nerdy fags looking for dates on computers! 03/15/89 15:06 OWENJ THE WEEKEND WETURNER I can't stand x year old imbeciles who suddenly denounce anything. Do we have the right of free choice, or are you going to tell me what to think¿ Sigh, religious questions again. Well, in a group this size they havå to come up. I agree, most ppl who denounce Paganism don't know much about it. Hell, I don't know much about it. And I do think that those who denounce Christianity are usually better informed. But then, it is the largest religion in this section of the world, so it's easier to get information on. I personally have yet to come upon any one religion that I can agree with on everything. If I could come up with ont of those, I'd be extremely happy. But until then, I guess I'll just be a very strict Oliverist. 03/15/89 17:00 IRONMAN ironman You're right, Medic, the Bible doesn't make a very good joke. And Arion, if I may be so bold as to steal and paraphrase a title of a Pink Floyd song. SET YOUR CONTROLS FOR THE HEART OF THE SON ! A few questions, if I may. It sounds like you may some inquiries into Christianity. What about it bothered/bothers you ? What did you think it would "give" you that you didn't "receive" ? Just curious, not slamming. 03/16/89 16:24 FIREESC Fire Escape ATTENTION: That post was not posted by ARION. I called him voice and asked him. He hasn't been on the boards in over three months. So whatever squid has the total lack of class to post under someone else's account had better quit. Arion told me to inform you all that he is terribly sorry that his account was abused. He doen't even have a modem people. And whoever you are, Arion had better not find out who you are or you will be very sorry, (his words, not mine..just a disclaimer). Now, that this is all cleared up, I will return you to your silly bickering about religions which the initial user who started this whole thing obviously cares little about. If anyone would like to talk to Arion directly, E-Mail me and I will arrange for him to call you. Fire Escape (I Know MY people) :) 03/17/89 00:51 TWEED Barfing Cat ()]8-) So, are you claiming to be a diety, FE? I mean, you did say they were "your" people...Is that like express written contract...You know...Signed, sealed, delivered your mine? ]8-) 03/17/89 01:52 MEDIC Medic Probable Why not take the advice of a different Pink Floyd song title... "Careful With That Axe, Eugene"... Or perhaps "Scream Thy Last Scream"... I certainly hope Fire Escape's not a deity... I would find it rather hard to worship anything with a mohawk... 03/18/89 13:40 IRONMAN ironman "....by these signs shall they be recognized.....". Yes, I think Fire Escape can recognize her people. Although it technically isn't a contract, it's called a covenant......with the Big Guy Upstairs. 03/18/89 17:50 GERBIL CHILDHOOD TRAUMA Ha! I am the ghost in the machine. Recognition is not true. No one judges and only the self may define the self. HER people. the flaw. the clique. supposedly we can all live 99 years in sin and hedonism, and 3 seconds as christian and still be "SAVED" if we pick the right three seconds? 03/18/89 19:14 FROM: STRYPER Warrior Of The Son TO: ALL SMRY: Wait a minute Whoever that was that said Christians are boring. I RESENT THAT!!!! I am a christian and I have lots of fun. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! Don't tell me we don't have fun. I am sick up people giving us the boring wimp image because that is not the case pal!!!!! Whoever that was that said that try being a Christian we will see how much fun you have. And Arion I don't know what happened that made you change, but you couldn't of been much of a CHristian if you can change your ideas so quickly!!! 03/19/89 03:40 MEDICAL Medic Probable I'm willing to take that risk... 03/19/89 03:42 MEDICAL Medic Probable You WOULD be boring if you were truly a Christian... because the damned religion has enough rules and regulations to basically outlaw fun. 03/19/89 09:38 IRONMAN ironman Well, if so, I sure wish you the best luck in choosing the right 3 seconds. And Fire Escape, by saying "MY people", is saying that she identifies herself with that group, not that she is setting herself up in some sort of dictatorial position of authority over some exclusive club® As a matter of fact, she ( and me, too ) would like you all to become one of the "club". If I recall correctly, that is one of the gripes you guys have with us Thumpers, that is, we won't "leave you alone". 03/19/89 09:45 IRONMAN ironman Awwwwww, Medic, that ain't really true, either ! I don't know of any rules or regulations which restrict fun. 03/19/89 15:35 PALADIN Charlemagne Knight I'm beginning to wonder about this oxymoron. His account is ARION. Does that translate into the ARIAN nation which is based on the following of Christ and the climax of judgement day? 03/19/89 16:39 HEADLESS Headless Chicken Try "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultry" for one. 03/20/89 02:39 MEDICAL Medic Probable That's ARYAN... which is also a euphemism for "Nazi". 03/20/89 02:40 MEDICAL Medic Probable Here, here! 03/20/89 05:53 TWEED Barfing Cat ()]8-) Well, sure, Christians are at times boring..Aren't we all... My favorite are the people whom get on the Natural Bridge bus and within 5 sentences have mentioned: Jesus, the devil, hell, the trinity, sin, repentence, sexual deviency, and the bible.... Not bad for 5 sentences, eh? 03/20/89 13:59 TALON S'Talon Hmmm, thumpers=Nazis. You might be on to something here. Fire Escape as deity. This could be scary. I don't think we need a theocracy here. 03/20/89 14:02 IRONMAN ironman "Don't commit adultery" ¿ Well, I don't, and I'm having fun ¡ So there ! 03/20/89 14:14 TALON S'Talon And there's more. Various thumpers have told me that computers, BBSing, pre-marital sex, Archon, gaming, driving above te speed limit, thinking, and various other activities were evil. As I said on Rolla Link, thumpers want you to become their slaves. I'm sorry but the Creator created me as a FREE and THINKING human who wishes to ENJOY tne Creation. I wish the thumpers would wake up and smell teh coffee and stop persecuting everyone who doesn't follow their narrow-minded slaver beliefs. -S'Talon 03/20/89 17:07 MEDICAL Medic Probable Remember... God created man, and have him a penis to think with. LISTEN to it... 03/21/89 20:03 FIREESC Fire Escape Arion was a nickname that Warrior of Light chose to retain from his D and D days folks. I can assure you that he isn't a racist by any stretch of the imagination. And no, I'm not a deity, wouldn't make a very good one I'm afraid. But as Ironman said, and as Jesus said, "You shall KNOW them by their love, one for another" and my sheep know me and recognise my voice. If we all know Jesus, you better believe we know each other when we see each other. How hard is that to figure out. Quit putting words in our mouth (fingers?). 03/21/89 20:08 FIREESC Fire Escape Amen Warrior of the Son (like Saint huh?), I couldn't have put it any better myself. I don't think I have ever met a single person that was Mr Entertainment 100% of the time, even our fellow BBSers. True, that there are so called Christians running about trying to measure the degree of their holiness by the angle of droop on their lips (look like they have been sucking persimmons their whole life!), but as my dear brother Mike Warnke always says, "I used to think the Bible was a big book of do's and don't, and that if I followed it I would end up living in a box, which I didn't dig. But I came to find out that there are a hell of a lot more "dos" than there are "don'ts", and if I spent my time doing the "do's" I wouldn't have time to do the "don'ts", so I do and I don't cus I can't and it's cool you know?!?" Uh..it's cool. Anyway, you see my point. This garbage about Christians not having fun is a bunch of lies. I have more fun now than I ever had before. Mike Warnke has always had people come up to him saying, "That's ok for you to tell us not to do this or that mr. Warnke because you have already had your fun", and as he always says, "That's funny, cus I sure don't remember it!". If you think drugging, drinking and whoring is fun, just wait until you know Jesus, you don't know what real happiness is Man! Fire Escape