Name: Fire Escape #65 Date: Sat Mar 25 19:34:26 1989 Not to mention, that C) Jesus also Rose from the dead in the 1st Century. Couldn't resist! Ironman #120 Date: Fri Mar 10 14:11:29 1989 I agree, Fire Escape. You can't just pay God Name lip service. It's "Put up or shut up". For those interested, Jesus Himself sort of touches on this topic. In Matthew 7:21, He says that " Not everyone who says to me 'Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but ONLY he who does the will of my Father who is in Heaven ". Crystal Warrior is certainly free to follow the will of God if it suits him. I might be so bold as to suggest that perhaps it would be wise to follow the will of God even when it isn't convenient. Name: Crystal Warrior #25 Date: Fri Mar 10 14:43:06 1989 Get off my case! Well, Mr.Headless, I've been modeming now for about 2 and a half years. ",out." is my trademark. I have always used it, and I always will use it, despite what critics like you think. Fire Escape: I am a follower of God only in the aspect that I respect him, acknowledge his presence, and choose good over evil. End of Story. And excuse the hell out of me for talking about something this subby was created for. Crystal Warrior,out. Name: Gryphon #21 Date: Fri Mar 10 20:34:43 1989 Please...uh oh, God's jealous because we're actually communicating with some other spirit than him! Quick, burn the board.... Wow, we're all tripping on acid...I just love tolerance.. Name: Headless Chicken #6 Date: Fri Mar 10 21:18:31 1989 You see, Mr. Warrior, what FE is saying is don't insult her by indentifying yourself as being in the same category as she is. You obviously do NOT follow Christianity as taught in the Bible, so don't act as if you did. If you want to follow some God, just say that he/she/it is your own PERSONAL God and everyone will let you be because you can never be wrong about your personal God. As far as you "out" business, I was just wondering where you were out to. No, I won't even hazard a guess. Name: Stex #22 Date: Sat Mar 11 00:59:00 1989 HC: There isn't too many people that follow God exactly in the way the Bible says... I know I don't. Different times, different customs, different ways of dealing with stuff. I also believe in a God. Kinda like Cw definition. I acknowledge his existance, but I don't really trust or believe a lot of what is said. I also am a strong, I suppose, believer in the supernatural stuff. And I know for sure that I am not on acid or any other substance. It's a belief that shouldn't be condemned outright, most of you haven't had any experiences of it, those of you who have I respect your decision to turn to something else if you chose so... I mean just like, as it will probably be brought up, what proof do you have for God(and FE, this isn't to start a religious debate on this subbie), there is as much for the supernatural, I meana books, people who have experienced it, even you if ya wanted could experience it. But just outright condemning it, kinda close-minded... Name: Headless Chicken #6 Date: Sat Mar 11 05:00:19 1989 God and Phantoms: I hold them both to entities of experience ONLY. (Does that make me an athiest? I wonder.) Name: Gryphon #21 Date: Sat Mar 11 08:17:07 1989 Fine, then no need to throw out callous insults about "You must be tripping on acid." Name: Ironman #120 Date: Sat Mar 11 10:12:48 1989 True, no need for insults. As someone pointed out, someotimes someone may say " Hey, I'm a Christian and I believe in ". Often, what fills in the blank is a belief or concept which is Totally out of step with Christianity as displayed, revealed ,and taught in the Bible. For instance, " Hey , I'm a Christian and I believe in astrology ". Sorry, but that just doesn't cut the mustard. What Fire Escape pointed out is valid. You have the FREE will to believe or not believe ANYTHING you want. Just PLEAE don't put the label of "Christian" on somethng which isn't. Oh, sorry Crystal Warrior if it seemed like you were getting picked on. PLEASE don't stop posting. Your posts, even if we don't always agree with them, are appreciated. Name: Bc #67 Date: Sun Mar 12 00:30:37 1989 I'm sorry fellas, but I just can't quite get it in my head that Ouija boards help you contact anything other than your imaginations with you expectations. If that's all it is. I have talked to several people who used to mess around with Ouija in years past. Each and every one of them said that they were BSing everyone but didn't want to admit it because they didn't want to be the only one who didn't experience 'something'. Point #2: Why would you believe that you're so important to a demon for him to contact YOU at all. What would be the point, if it did indeed happen at all? I can't believe that these 'contacts' are anything more than pure, unadulterated BS or, at the very best, an over active imagination and peer pressure. Name: Stex #22 Date: Sun Mar 12 02:54:16 1989 Like loosen up chief! So it might be imagination to some, reality to others. Big deal. Kinda takes the romance outta life if you don't give something your belief, or atleast a try. If thats what they choose to believe so be it. I'll say I believe, I'm not afraid to admit it. Not a die hard about it, can't take anything at face value you know. I'll say this, it's phun, and you shouldn't take everyrthing at face value on what it says. Lot of these types of things are so general that any question you ask could be interpreted a few ways so... Like I said, -you- should actually experience some of the stuff before you pass judgement. There is so many out there that tell themselves that John does says so and so is just a bunch of BS and you follow is choice, Experience, find out about it, whatever, give it a chance, eh? Better judgement comes about that way, often a lot better then the d00d who said it was BS or whatever. Does anyone understand what I'm saying or am I just babbling to myself because it's late and I'm tired? Name: Bc #67 Date: Sun Mar 12 10:19:35 1989 No intent to injure, and I have played around with the stuff in the past.(not for quite a while, though) If it's imagination,then say so. I think it's great to have an imagination. Hell, that's one of the reasons I BBS is to try to imagine who you others are and what you look like. Hell, I may never find out, but it's fun in the trying... I'm nat trying to pass judgement, but I also abhor phoneys. There's too much of it out there. Name: Gryphon #21 Date: Sun Mar 12 13:11:44 1989 I like it because it appeals to the romanticist in me...plus, I always accept possiblities, plus it's fun, what if...it is true? SOrta neat. But when it predicted the future with relative accuracy, (including saying when one person was about to enter the house, it went to YES and 1-2 seconds later the doorbell rung upstairs and it was he), it does inspire credulity... Name: Stex #22 Date: Sun Mar 12 17:37:46 1989 I'd like to beleive, and put a strong faith in it, but need to experience the stuff more before I make a final decision. So I dunno...like I said alot of things can't be taken at face value... And as Gryph said, it tends to inspire credulity on some of the stuff it predicts. But thats not all the time so... And as Gryph said, it's phun, and well, whether totally rule or over-active imagination ^real^ I'm not sure, but I'm willin' to give it a chance. Name: The Chief #67 Date: Mon Mar 13 12:50:33 1989 Good for you! (being in a more tolerant mood today)...I'm a bit of a skeptic in some ways, and in others, I'll believe in anything that comes around. You guys just caught me on a conservative day. Here's something to try out on your board....1. Se if it will predict a number of things that no one would know about. Chart the right and the wrong and see what the percentage is. Hell, I'm a skeptic, but I'll try anything... Name: Gryphon #21 Date: Mon Mar 13 14:33:20 1989 It did, tho...none of us knew the person would be late. It also proved itself to be consistently 11 minutes off, both in predicting sunset, time of arrival, and a coupla other thigns... Name: Utwo #109 Date: Mon Mar 13 17:00:39 1989 I'm with Gryph in the reasons he likes the Oujia board stuff. Horde: I found some interesting shit on Baal. In religion class today we were reading the Bible where low and behold I read the name Baal (I was actually reading at the time too. Pretty spooky, eh?). Well it turns out Baal is the Pheonician main god but he takes on diferent attributes for each local place. Here's a quote from a Bible footnote "...'Baal', a word meaning 'lord'. He was honored by various titles, hence the plural form (Baals) here. Equivalent to 'the Pagan gods'." Ashtaroth is the plural form of the feminine oppostie of Baal. Baal is used with other words to form the specific god. (Baalzebub is "the lord of flies" and Baal-berith is "the lord of the covenant") Also it's pronounced Bá al. Someone who frequents the library a lot might want to check out a book on Pheonician gods. Name: The Silver Sword #68 Date: Tue Mar 14 14:39:08 1989 Um...Baalzebub is the Devil...Satan...ya know? yeah... Well, never heard of Phoenician gods but I'll go look at 'em...heh... and THAT means that Baal-berith is GOD!!! Cuz God made a covenant with Abraham way back when... Name: Utwo #109 Date: Tue Mar 14 16:14:29 1989 You could say that.. That is if it's the same covenant, eh? Yea the term Baal has also come to be knon as term for the Devil. Tss: You've gone through a lot of religious schooling. Was there more then one angel that became evil? Name: Doomer #20 Date: Tue Mar 14 20:20:16 1989 Horde: Ok, well after using the board this weekend with Stex and stuff, I -KNOW- we misinterpreted a lot of shit. The dude, Geryon, was playing with us and it took me a while before I figured things out, plus Stex pooled his oppinions in, also. I'm pretty sure I know almost EXACTLY what's going to be happening both Jun. 6th, and/or Mar. 15, tho I'm beginning to question whether the dates are correct (Maybe 11 dayz off..?) Only way to see if I'm anywhere close, tho, is to wait...I'll let you know. THC & Ironman: If you read Cw's post, he never even mentioned Christianity, only God and his 'path'... Name: Crystal Warrior #25 Date: Tue Mar 14 22:49:27 1989 Doomer: does this have anything to do with the reading of the cards I did for you, Rich, and Jon?????? If not, what are you talken about? Clue us in. I'm hearing some pretty freaky shit out side my window right now, sooooo...I moe be letten yous go now. Sounds like some one's banging a baseball bat against a sheet of thin metal. Kinda spooky...mixed with the howling of the wind. Hmmmmmm, I've also been getten wierd phone calls Doom, some one with a very "shakey" voice...heavy breathing, saying "You will lead them.". Now, take 2 guesses about what there talken bout! Name: Gryphon #21 Date: Wed Mar 15 06:35:24 1989 Tommyknockers, tommyknockers, knocking at the door.... Utwo: Interesting....knew someone'd find something. It's always neat to find prefixes like that...hell, I might grow up to be a linguist at this rate.. Doom: Really? SOunds interesting, clue us in.. Name: Ironman #120 Date: Wed Mar 15 09:38:06 1989 CW made mention that he wasn't a "Die Hard" Christian, which left me with the impression that he was a Christian , but not a fundamentalist.